Captain's Quarters -

Exactly right CE; and let's not forget the Duke faculty who also judged and convicted these kids of being guilty prior to due process, adding to the horrible treatment these kids faced each day on campus.

Nifong is staring "judgement day" right in the eyes; all others should either come clean and apoligize, or face their own judgement day.

Let me guess. Like Chuck Colson, Nifong gets religion. And, enters "stage pulpit." His name recognition follows him wherever he goes.

Now, what's been uncovered is much more telling.

Because putting people in jails is what prosecutors do. Fair trials. Or one where defendents get off ... Are career busters.

So I don't expect the real changes that are necessary, here.

Just as I do expect the 88 proressional and credentialed assholes to have tenure. Do you know why? Because you don't vote. It's an internal combustion engine.

Change in the academic community is exceedingly slow. And, as long as incoming students line up to join the parade; the system, such as it is, continues.

But heck, even the institution of marriage has taken on hits. So why not assume, up ahead, we won't have these juvenile behavior centers; and the word "teenager" will also hit the skids.

What makes a teenager? Laws against giving our driver's licenses? Beer? It's artificial.

What can replace the current system in education? One that works.

If Nifong was truly remorseful this charade would have ended before the slow moving State Bar got ahold of him and began to shake.

Ya think there's a publisher who will give Nifong money for his "tell-all?" You think he goes to the poor house. Not me. I don't.

In resigning, Nifong gave up nothing, because he was going to lose the job anyway. Even a mere reprimand would make his position untentable. He deserves no mitigation for his long career, any more than a solid citizen who kills his wife, just because it's his only crime.

I would love to see the NY Times equally skewered in the upcoming lawsuits for their part in the travesty. Duke's administration is hunkered down, being quiet and breathing heavily but you just *know* there are panicky meetings behind closed doors where Brodhead and the school's attorneys are looking for an exit strategy. If I was one of the three ex-defendents, I'd be inclined to let Duke the school off the hook if they can find a way to fire the 88 faculty members.

The debate ought not be whether or not he is disbarred. The debate ought to be whether or not he should go to jail. As prosecutor and actor for the state, he has considerable leeway to not suffer prosecution for performing his duties. However, in a most egregious way, he almost assuredly stepped beyond those bounds in this case. That's about the only place where justice is yet to be determined.

A rogue prosecutor must be prosecutable, not just get by with a mulligan or banishment from the club on terms of his own choosing.

Seeing Seligman recount and relive his persecution on the stand yesterday was powerful stuff. I could almost feel myself in his shoes the whole time, yet I still cannot imagine the full force of the anguish he, his colleagues, and his family suffered for the miscarriage of justice imposed by Nifong. Adding insult to the injury, Nifong did it to get a powerful job and not for some profound search for justice.

There ought to be a very long line of people trying to make amends for creating the lynch mob that doesn't stop with Nifong. Maybe Nifong can find his comfort in knowing he wasn't alone and created a case precedent on how NOT to do a job and how the public should NOT rush to conclusions. I doubt he is really looking to comfort anyone but himself, but perhaps deep in his soul, he'll appreciate the depths of his transgression. To be fair, we cannot rush to judgment for Nifong's defense either, so here's hoping the case is well researched and thoughtfully, thoroughly combed with fine teeth.

Yes, Ed, you're spot on. The state Bar should be investigated too if it gives Nifong the mulligan.

So then, is that the best we can hope for? If Nifong gets skewered, then everyone else involved gets a walk?

NahnCee,

I'm afraid so. Perhaps the Duke players can recoup some monies from the University for its actions, but I figure it's a longshot. The signing professors lack integrity, the race baiters never had it, and the meme-ing media (exemplified by the abysmal Nancy Grace) almost always escape with their smears. At least now we can turn the latter off and find online alternatives.

As to the real instigator, the rape "victim," I'm just not seeing too many with the stomach to prosecute her. I understand the sob stories about her circumstance in life, yet how she should escape any punishment at all is inherently wrong. No one seems to want to address this. Is it race-related?

perhaps because i'm used to rogue prosecutors and the justice they ultimately receive i find the greater crime done by the faculty and other associated poseurs.

their crimes are more insidious because they are rarely rectified. each has contributed to destroying a person's life, for however long, without for any fear of retribution. i hope the students and family sue these people into their graves. not only for themselves but for the thousands that have gone before who never received their lives back.

I don't hear anyone asking the question, "How many people are in prison now whom Nifong has successfully railroaded?" You know that man's character didn't just take a wrong turn overnight.

don't hear anyone asking the question, "How many people are in prison now whom Nifong has successfully railroaded?" You know that man's character didn't just take a wrong turn overnight.

I've been raising this point for months. If I were an attorney for someone convicted under Nifong, I'd be pressing for a new trial. I've heard of similar cases involving cops who've given testimony at trials and who later gets in trouble themselves leading to calls for new trials. Certainly a rogue prosecutor deserves the same. I have a hard time believing he went this wrong just this once. As important as smacking the Duke 88 around is, ensuring justice is far more important.

i have a feeling with Nifong the trouble will be with the people he didn't put in jail. he was clearly pandering either as a mind set or for re-election purposes.

Nifong has accepted that disbarrment is an appropriate penalty.

And the findings and verdict are pretty decisive.

Bring on the civil suits.

And put Fitz in the queue for the same treatment. His public statements were as bad or worse before the indictments and trial.

Very cute captain, linking to the NY Times for the Nifong resignation.

Anyone interested in reading the real story of the Duke rape case has to read KC Johnson. He is doing great work reporting the story the MSM would just as soon go away.

If you are as confused as many about this case, read Johnson's blog and be confused no more.

http://durhamwonderland.blogspot.com/

The flat out misreporting of the NY Times and folks like CNN's Nancy Grace and the underreporting of the embarrassing truth by the MSM is something is the subtext of why true consumers of news now look to alternative media for straight news.

DISBARRED! And good riddance. The man brought disrepute on his office by trying to railroad innocent defendants. Thank God their families had the money to defend them against the false charges brought by the lyiing biatch. One wonders how many other innocents were railroaded because they didn't have deep pockets to defend themselves against false charges brought by politically motivated DAs.

And it's long past time for those 88 whited sepulchres at Duke to apologize for their falsely conflicting the innocent lacrosse players. I can't say how much contempt I have for them without using curse words, so we'll leave it at that. Let's just say they should be working with those Whale Feces Researchers if they want to find my level of regard for them.

CONVICTING. PIMF.

As much as DanS and others would like, no matter what the level of malfeasance he is still able to hide behind the veil of absolution from tort by the generalized shield laws.

So folks rattle the cages of your local legislatures and reform those laws that allow such exceptions.

Have them put in that clause where wanton and willful abuse of office exposes the perp to tort endangerment.